Sunday, June 16, 2019

Orson Scott Card interview


From the vault: ORSON SCOTT CARD is the author of 20+ novels, including Treasure Box, Lost Boys {which was a movie}, Alvin Journeyman, The Changed Man, Homebody, and ENDER'S GAME, which was a film starring Harrison Ford, and given a production from Audio Literature/Fantastic Audio, and won an Earphones award. He was also a part of Harper Audio’s Legends series. Winner of an Audiobooks Today Influencer award.
 
LOWE:  Are you happy with the abridgment or editing of your books on tape, and the quality of interpretation?

CARD:  Even though I listen to quite a few books on tape myself, I don't listen to my own anymore - the primary exception being my novel Lost Boys, read by Robby Benson - but I listened to that mostly because I wanted to hear what Benson did with it, and how the abridgment compared with the full version of the text.  I think he did a wonderful job.

LOWE:  You see problems with abridgment for audio--of your work in particular?

CARD:  The fault of the abridged versions of my books is not in the quality of work the abridger did, but in the fact that it can scarcely be done at all.  As with any writer, I do have many paragraphs that can be cut without affecting the flow of the story; but there are a few of us with whom abridgment cannot go further than that, and to get a full-length novel down to three or four hours requires cutting great swathes of text; whole plot lines can go on the cutting room floor. My work does not abridge well. Lost Boys was perhaps the most abridgable, having several "red herring" plot lines that could disappear without affecting the central plot; but most of my books are reduced to incoherency, and I cannot bear to listen to them.  Worse yet, the readers of my science fiction books tend to use, not the character-rich voice of, say, Will Patton reading Robert McCammon, but rather a stentorian, bombastic voice like the narrator of a bad sci-fi movie from the fifties. It does great violence to the way I write, for I invariably use an oral voice in my writing, which demands as much subtlety and variety of speech as the voices of the characters.

LOWE:  True, there are some unfortunate interpretations of books out there.  For instance, some story collections are narrated by the editor who collected the stories, rather than by a professional narrator.

CARD:  It's ironic that the readers of my work have tended to be so ham-handed in their reading of my work, because I am one of the most oral of writers working. My fiction should be the easiest to read fluidly, intelligibly, and emotionally. After trying to listen to the Ender series on tape I gave up, but with my new audio book publisher I have hope that perhaps the abridgments won't be so brutal or the reading so inept. This is not, by the way, the vanity of an author who expects his work to be perfectly preserved. I understand the requirements of the genre, and am a regular auditor of recorded books. I was an enthusiastic student of interpretive reading and readers theatre in college, and have mounted many a readers theatre production myself. I know how to adapt books to be read aloud; I know how to perform them and to direct their performance, and have proven that to the satisfaction of many an audience. I have heard many performances of audio books that are brilliant. I would rejoice if my work ever received the sensitive treatment that has been given to the works of, say, Sue Grafton or Robert McCammon or Patricia Cornwell.

LOWE:  Many people listen to audio books while they drive.  Do you?

CARD:  I do listen to books on tape as I drive long distances. That's why I never buy the unabridged versions of long novels - I buy only what I can finish in a five or six hour drive.  Besides - and this is going to sound awful - five or six hours is as long as a novel on tape ought to last in oral performance. At three or four hours, I know my own plots are butchered beyond intelligibility; but anything longer than five or six hours, even with my own writing, would be self-indulgent. No one writes novels with such economy that you can't excise ruminative, descriptive, or otherwise extraneous paragraphs that, while a delight to read silently, become repetitive or excessively abstract when read aloud.

LOWE:  Your family listens to books on tape as well?

CARD:  My whole family joins me in listening to books on tape when we travel together. We recently crossed the country and heard almost a dozen books, though admittedly some were BBC radio dramatizations of Agatha Christie. It was a wonderful way to pass the time. And even though my family are all good readers-aloud, it was better to listen to a well-performed audio book than to read to each other because my family are all prone to motion sickness and headaches from reading in a car, and we would all go hoarse from shouting to be heard over highway noise. Nowadays we wouldn't think of going on a drive together without a book. Frequently we switch it off in order to discuss what we've been hearing, so that we don't sit as mute audience but let it engage our thoughts and become the root of conversation. And, of course, we openly admire excellent performances.

LOWE:  Can an excellent performance make a mediocre book sound good?

CARD:  We are quite aware that good performances can seduce us into enjoying second-rate books rather more than we should. We thought we were fans of Patricia Cornwell, for instance, until one day I actually bought one of her books in print form and found it almost unreadable; we had been won over by the performer and the abridger! Likewise, I've found that I can't read Grisham - but I very much enjoy listening to abridged performances of his work. So now we don't even buy Cornwell or Grisham between covers. We buy the books on tape and save them for long car trips.  On the other hand, sometimes even excellent performances can't save a bad book. We did listen to Cold Mountain from beginning to end, but with the awful fascination of watching endless replays of a race car crashing into a wall. It gave us many good conversations about the art of writing, and speculation about why something so empty-headed and badly written could become a bestseller. How many people really survive firing squads? How often can you use the same gimmick before the reader starts laughing? But the abridgment and the performance, far from hurting the book, were the only reason we could endure hearing it read to the end.

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Well, it's like this. I'd been asked to review the newest ship of the Triangle Cruise Line, the S.O.S. Improbable. Sailing down from Bermuda, the S.O.S. Improbable is typical of the fleet, which now consists of three ships, and completes a trilogy. Of the three ships now afloat -- also including the M.S. Incredible and the B.S. Implausible -- it is the S.O.S. Improbable which provoked the most speculation, and which boasted the most interesting authors and narrators (to say nothing, yet, about its passengers). After all, while sailing into the glorious turquoise Caribbean sea, can you imagine dining on lobster and filet mignon with the likes of Bill Bryson, David Sedaris, Nelson DeMille, and Nora Roberts? Would you be intrigued and enticed even more by learning that your singing waiters may include George Guidall, Martin Jarvis, Barbara Rosenblat, and Dolly Parton?


Picture retiring from dinner with an espresso, and wandering into the Audiotorium, a vast purple and gold arena with seating for 1,000. And there, imagine being entertained by stand-up routines from Dennis Miller and Jay Leno, followed by premier first readings of unedited new work from Dean Koontz and Stephen King . . . with the lights turned low, of course. After this? Romantic ballroom dancing with the author or narrator of your choice. (I chose the third richest woman in England, myself, and we tangoed until almost midnight and sipped so much champagne she mistakenly called me "Harry" at our goodbye kiss.)


Suffice it to say, the ship itself was well-fitted, luxurious throughout, and that although the registry was unknown, the liquor ran freely, and the midnight buffets feature ice sculptures, caviar, prime rib, and "Death by Chocolate" cake. (After a dramatic reading of Elizabethan poetry by the tipsy duo of Scott Brick and Orson Scott Card, a sword-wielding game of Truth or Dare ensued between narrator Grover Gardner and author Thomas Harris.)


Yet before you dial your travel agent and book passage, it's my obligation to say I cannot recommend either this ship or this trip. Why? Well, it wasn't the food, the accommodations, or the wonderful authors and performers with whom one may share canapes for seven glorious nights. Oh . . . oh no. It was the other passengers. The ones in steerage, I mean. One in particular.


It began innocently enough. We were steaming toward Jamaica when the guy lazily reclining in the deck chair next to me looked at the iPod in my hand and suddenly said: "We aliens like to listen to audiobooks too." I looked at him, and then . . . then he winked. Twice. On the second wink I spewed Kahula and cream I'd been sipping all over myself. Luckily, Elizabeth Peters and Robin Whitten were sitting out of range beyond him, precluding additional embarrassment . . . although I did have a good excuse for it. After all, the guy doing the winking had two eyelids, the second resembling an icky green jelly-like membrane. Other than this rather minor oversight he could have passed for any Price Is Right contestant. When I finally regained the ability to talk, I didn't know what to say. I remember the only other conversation we'd made up to that point concerned the perception of American tourists abroad; the cliche image of balding middle aged men you see everywhere with camcorders around their neck, with their oafish pomposity, and penchant for littering. Mentally tabulating my possible responses to this new and startling revelation, I formulated -- in about 3.6 seconds -- these alternatives:



A) I could scream, causing shipwide panic.


B) I could remain calm and go quietly insane.


C) I could ask the creature what planet he was from.


D) I could ask for another Kahula and cream.



I chose D.



"Good choice," said the alien, when my drink finally arrived.



"Excuse me?" I said, because at first I thought he'd read my mind, and meant my drink. But then he pointed at the audiobook on the table beside me.



"Oh," I said robotically. "Have you heard John Grisham on audio?"



The alien nodded. "I like The Testament especially, but mainly because of the narrator," he replied, nonchalantly.



I believe I blinked. I can't quite remember at this point.



"We don't have many good narrators on my planet, don't you know," he added, after a moment.



"I see," I said, although I didn't. And didn't want to. From there the conversation turned only more bizarre, breaking the oft written rule on board the S.O.S. Improbable, which was DON'T ENGAGE OTHER PASSENGERS IN SERIOUS CONVERSATION. A rule I hadn't taken seriously, much to my regret.



As it turned out, he was from the planet Thurbann in the Vega system. He'd landed on Earth in a debris-fueled ramjet which dropped out of warp drive in the vicinity of Neptune, and he claimed to have coasted to Earth and set down in the Indian Ocean near the Maldives. Now he was just sightseeing, and picking up audiobooks -- which apparently is what Thurbannese crave most.



When I mentioned that I'd never been to Jamaica, he replied: "That's amazing. I've seen everything there is to see on MY home planet."



"Really?" I said. "And what's it like, exactly?"



"Pretty boring. Most of our perfectly round globe is covered by water eight inches deep. No volcanoes, mountains, canyons, oceans, nothing. We live far underground, where everyone pretty much watches TV. We have few writers, but lots and lots of game shows. I've noticed that your planet has lots of game shows too, but Earth has mountains and canyons and oceans, so we often wonder why."



"What do they eat on Thurbann?" I asked, intrigued.



"DID, not DO. No one lives there during half of the solar year, which incidentally is about three hundred of your Earth years. We're on an elliptical orbit, you understand. In our winter, when temperatures drop about two degrees cooler than summer, we all leave because the oceans freeze. What you would call fish merely hibernate. But the flying turtles take to the air and use the time to reproduce."



"Flying turtles?"



"Topaus. They're what we hunt and eat. It's not fair to hunt them when they can't hide, though. So there's a ban. Won't be open season on them, in fact, for another hundred years."



"What are they like?" I asked.



"Like sea turtles in a way, only their flippers are bigger and flatter. Over the ages they've adapted, you see, to falling sea levels. History has it the oceans were once deeper. Maybe even as deep as two miles."



I gasped for air, and possibly to stay conscious. "What happened to all that water?"



"Well, one theory has it some tourists from a very dry neighboring star cluster have been visiting Thurbann for ages. They arrive during our winter when we're gone and take home 'souvenirs' as you would say, of water. Or rather ice. Couple thousand years more of this and ours will be a desert planet. Already we got ozone holes all over the place, and global warming."



"So the loss of water means . . ."



"Since we have no temperature variations and therefore no thunderstorms and lightning to produce ozone like you do, less water to us means less of our oxygen producing plankton. And less oxygen, of course, means more holes for radiation. More radiation and it's the end. Our turtles are doomed. Ergo, we are doomed. That is, unless we can restore the water somehow. You know, find a planet somewhere that has ice caps and a global warming problem, but doesn't see that their water levels are rising because we're stealing ice. See how it works?"



"You mean kinda like your coming to Earth for audiobooks?"



He winked very rapidly two dozen times. "That's it," he said. "You got it."



"I've interviewed many interesting people," I told him, sincerely, "but never anyone like you."



"That can change," the alien replied, with ominous intent. "By the way, you can call me Zeereeaanean."



We shook hands. "Hi Hal," I said. "I'm Jon. You don't mind if I take notes, do you?"



"Not at all. It's what I've been doing." He shrugged and winked twice again. It made my heart do what might be described as backflips. I scribbled frantically. "Tell me. When do your people return to Thurbann?"



"Oh, in about a century. Like I said, when it's open season."



I dropped my pencil, inadvertently. "That's . . . that's a long time."



"Not really. I can't speak for others, but personally I like to spend at least that long to get the feel of a place. Only another ten or twenty years and I'll be on my way to what you'd call Epsilon Centuri. Now the narrators there are superb. Bit loud, though."



"Tell me about it. Please."



Here I was hoping his head wouldn't part, revealing an icky gelatinous brain with eyes and teeth. Then he reviewed several strange audiobooks for me in a way no human had before, or could. I was particularly fascinated by his description of the 800 decibel narrative style of the triple-throated Zaabiian Wofbat.



"Do you like science fiction?" I queried. "Asimov, Clarke, Heinlein?"



"We enjoy that a lot," the alien I called Hal confessed, "except we call it Humor."



"What about Robert Jordan, or Terry Brooks?"



"Or Goodkind? Fantasy is great, especially if you tire of Daze of Our Lies."



"You . . . you watch soap operas on Thurbann?" I asked in disbelief.



"Unfortunately, yes. The signals from your first season have just reached our planet too, I understand, and I'm afraid we're in for endless reruns from other planets as well unless I can gather enough audiobooks from around the galaxy in time to stave off ennui." He snuffed. "Is your next question going to be can I communicate with dolphins?"



I found myself stuttering for the first time. "You t-t-t-tell me."



"Okay, I will. Your next question is . . . just a minute . . . will I have to kill you, now. The answer is no, I don't think so. We don't like to kill book lovers. But if you'll take me to Simon Cowell. . . By the way, I can read minds when I really focus sometimes. That's how I know who I can trust to tell these things -- or who will be believed. But I can never read the future. It's rather hard to read something that isn't there yet."



"I know what you mean," I replied, balling up my notes, and shaking like a trailer park sign at an approaching tornado.



By the time we disembarked on the cruise line's private island, I was drunker than a sports addict at a Tupperware party, and laughing like what Hal called a "skeek-sa." As luck would have it, we met the next day at the beach, me with "Beach Music" by Pat Conroy on audio. But when I saw what Hal had, I was shocked once again. Here he was, wearing Bermuda shorts now, a straw hat, and with one of those plastic, blow-up inner tubes around his waist. At the sight of the Bullwinkle horns, I winced. And winced again when from one hand he strategically dropped a chewing gum wrapper while his other hand gripped a rum punch with one of those tiny umbrellas in it.



"Hal," I said, approaching him in dismay. "You . . . you look just like a . . . a tourist!"



Hal grinned. "But that's just what I AM," he said, giving a prophetic laugh. At which point several dozen other passengers looked over at me and winked . . . twice.



Jonathan Lowe has published widely in magazines, and has won awards from the SC Arts Commission, Roger C Peace Foundation, and Writer’s Digest. He has been writing about and reviewing audiobooks since 1995. His novels include Postmarked for Death, Awakening Storm, Lottery Island, Judge Jury: Hybrid Stories, and The Methuselah Gene. He spent 20 years in Tucson, and currently lives in Greenville SC. Two of his one act plays and a dozen radio dramas have been produced, plus one short film.  CONTACT: AudiobooksToday@gmail.com

First novel Postmarked for Death (1995) endorsed by Clive Cussler and John Lutz in small press hardcover, Write Way Press (which folded); sold to audio as “Postal” narrated by Frank Muller for Publishing Mills (2000; Earphones Award), catalog sold to Dove Audio (Michael Viner), performance now in limbo. Explored abandoned Titan missile base on motorcycle south of Tucson to get the final scene right, after publishing a short story with similar setting (Easyriders magazine.) A postal clerk with a grudge against illegal immigrants sets up a fellow postal employee to be patsy, chaining him in an abandoned missile base near the border, as he continues to mail letter bombs to government offices and police search for the wrong man. Based on real bombings, such as the Unabomber. Frank Muller (Stephen King’s favorite narrator) had a motorcycle accident later that led to his death in 2008. “A class performance, powerful and accomplished…mystery at its best.” —Clive Cussler (on hardcover.) “A real page turner. Read this one, and dropping a letter in the mailbox will never be the same.” —John Lutz (Single White Female movie; novelist whose next book was about a serial bomber.) See POST OFFICE CONFIDENTIAL: A MEMOIR.